why are we always running after money...is there any life beyond this run for it or is life nothing but money ????

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Not a single activity in this world can be culminated without the involvement of money. This intrinsic force is much more powerful than the natural wealths many may attempt to compare with.

Money is an important ingredient to stay afloat ..... the quantum decides the extent of comfort or luxuries you can get into ! But without money .... you will not even get a cremation for yourself !
Not a single activity in this world can be culminated without the involvement of money.
This intrinsic force is much more powerful than the natural wealths many of us may attempt to compare with.

Money is an important ingredient to stay afloat in this universe ..... the quantum of money decides the extent of comfort or luxuries you can get into ! But without money .... you will not even get a cremation for yourself !

I defer on that Pankaj.  Just because the current simulacrum of society pegs our existential essentials to a bank balance it does not mean that this will remain true for ever or that it was true in the past.  The transactional model of merit based rewards is at best a fractured tin soldier with a crutch (it is of course better than the charity handouts).

 

However one thing which has not changed and which I doubt will change is value.  So if we rephrase what you said as: 

Not a single activity in this world can be culminated without the involvement of value. This intrinsic force is much more powerful than the natural wealths many may attempt to compare with.


Value is an important ingredient to stay afloat ..... the quantum decides the extent of comfort or luxuries you can get into ! But without value.... you will not even get a cremation for yourself !

If you say that, I will whole heartedly agree.  Today's representation of value has been hardened to a singular representative coin...aka...money.  While "real value" floats distinct and separate.  A market economy driven society centers "value" in a "paisa phek tamasha dhek" culture.  However therein lies its weakness. It periodically implodes and after each implosion, notional wealth is borrowed from the future to shore up the present. Thats what happened with sub prime and every other financial meltdown before.  However this borrowing cannot go on infinitely so eventually it will implode.  A pundit said financial meltdowns are cyclical and has a 40 year lifespan...with the internet I think it will take half that and have bigger impact... I estimate we'll see the next cave in around 2030ish....it will rain wall street and dalal brokers again (as in them jumping from their high rise windows) ;) .....

 

Sorry went a bit off topic with that but my point is this. Money is a representation of value.  As long as we are able to nail the value, we can show the finger to money anytime - use it for our purposes without concern....short circuit the rich man's burden before it leaves the gate....

 

All this I know sounds like a vague arm chair philosopher's abstraction that won't hold up in the heat and dust of the marketplace.  In the coming years I hope to demonstrate it in action....

http://www.quora.com/What-does-it-feel-like-to-be-rich

This is an interesting read on Quora, on a similar topic if not the same.

Society drives the value of money in a person's life. When you no longer care to be connected to the society, the quantity of money no longer matters.
Interesting food for thought.... probably my anti-social streak shining through :D

Bharat said:
http://www.quora.com/What-does-it-feel-like-to-be-rich

This is an interesting read on Quora, on a similar topic if not the same.

Society drives the value of money in a person's life. When you no longer care to be connected to the society, the quantity of money no longer matters.
whew ..... but your last two lines summed you up. Well said.
But then ... without money .. you have no Value !!
No philosophy or Dr.Johnson like explanation here ... just simple ... reality is also bought by money nowadays !!
Why is everyone relating the importance of money to being rich?
"without money .. you have no Value !!"

not really, the most important contributions to mankind have been made by paupers - the Buddha, Jesus Christ, Socrates, Plato etc etc.

A direct test is to see if you remember any rich man just because he is rich. Once the rich man is dead he is just like the poor man: dead, forgotten, and ignored. Value doesn't reside in having or not having money.



Pankaj Kayathwal said:
whew ..... but your last two lines summed you up. Well said.
But then ... without money .. you have no Value !!
No philosophy or Dr.Johnson like explanation here ... just simple ... reality is also bought by money nowadays !!

Not to divert away from the topic of having money against being rich, but how many poor people do we know that has brought in a change or made a mark in the past few years. Achievers no longer get their due respect in today's world, unless the achievement resulted in a lot of money.

 

If someone is asked to name the top 10 famous persons of the world or the country of today, I bet all of them are rich irrespective of which field they belong to. And being famous tend to bring in the delusion of being good or being idealistic for the rest of us. (Not talking abt Osama here)

Interesting poser Bharat...the greatest change in the 21st century is undoubtedly the web and that was brought by a relatively - with  a stress on the word relatively - poor man: tim berners lee.  Of course then there is edison whose contributions have changed the way we think and interact with the world and he was definitely a rich man by most standards... though depending on who you talk to the real contribution to electricity and the triumph of AC over DC was a contribution by Tesla who died a poor man.... 

 

The data doesn't support the the conclusion that rich men changed the world....but it does support the conclusion that those who do change the world have a propensity for becoming rich in the 20th and 21st century.....

 

One thing though is very clear: to change the world being rich or poor has nothing to do with it.  

:) We do not remember Prince Siddarth or Lord Krishna because they were born in royal families or they had money.  The contributions they made to the world remain intact without the trappings of wealth or a palace.  That they had wealth sloughs off completely from what they taught.  Did any of the old masters advocate wealth making as in buy n sell and rake in the rokda? 

 

Money is a notional construct built our of our imagination.  Likewise so is the BMW and the bullock cart.  Both from our imagination and in our imagination.  The comfort, the power, the luxury, and the thrill of speed we experience in the BMW is only relative to the what we haven't experienced in a inter-planetary craft which is relative to a inter-stellar star hopper which is relative to.... etc.  All in our imagination.  The reality we ascribe to it is real because thats what we want to to be real.

 

The world has been spinning very well without money for a gazillion years and it will continue to do with or without money.  Humans will continue to thrive and spread through the galaxy long after trade and transactional value exchange have been relegated to the museum.....

 

As with pankaj - if you say Value makes the world around I'll nod along vigorously.  :)  In fact I'll up it one step further - Quality makes the world go round, in fact quality is what makes the universe.....

 

Okay that going off into the deep end.  :)

 


Jyoti Shukla said:

@Neil:  here are some interesting“money power “ facts:)

Money IS the MOST important thing in life; that’s why we have songs praising its importance from  Bollywood ( the whole thing is that ki bhaiya sabasebada rupaiya) to ABBA (Money, Money, Money.. always sunny in a rich man’s world).

 

Money CAN and DOES buys real love, not only for one “janam”but for “7 janam”. That’s why no Indian marriage is complete without dowry!  Give/ take dowry  and have a long lasting, happy marriage for 7janam:)

Remember the most popular “ true love” story of Cinderella? She also married a rich Prince Charming and not some poor boy from her neighborhood. And, she could access Prince Charming only by taking magical help and turning into a temporary princess.  

Money can and does buy happiness; be it a birthday presentfor one’s child or Diwali gifts for kids in an orphanage. Why, we even worship GoddessLakshmi on Diwali!

Money can and does buy health; it provides nourishing, hygienicfood and safe drinking water to keep one healthy and in case one falls sick, it’money that provides for top most medical facilities, life saving expensivemedicines and specialist doctor’s fees.

@Abey:  Rich men arenot dead, forgotten and ignored like poor men.. Buddha was Prince Siddharth who renounced money later, Ram was King of Ayodhya, Krishna was born into the royalfamily of Mathura and was brought up by the richest man in Gokul, Nand...Samrat Chandragupt , Smrat Vikramaditya .. JRD Tata, Ghanshaym Das Birla, Dhirubhai Ambani.. long list of rich menwho are/ will be  remembered across generations..

The world does revolve around money:)


Neil Bahal said:

Nah, money is not the most important in life and it surely cannot buy real love, happiness and health.


True........It definitely cannot buy True love, Power, Happiness & Health...!
Neil Bahal said:

Nah, money is not the most important in life and it surely cannot buy real love, happiness and health.

 

 

 

 


 

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